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UPDATE: Registration is now open for Open Journalism on the Open Web!

Hacks/Hackers, Mozilla, the Medill School of Journalism, The Media Consortium, and others are teaming up to develop a solid six-week online curriculum that will benefit both "hacks" and hackers.

To make this work, we need feedback from both journalists and programmers on the questions:

  • What topics should be covered?
  • Would you be interested in helping to teach a topic?

Read on for more context, or just jump to the topic suggestions posted below as answers and add your vote, or -- better yet -- ideas.

Quick background

As some of you in the this community may have read, Hacks/Hackers and Mozilla are teaming up to run a six-week peer-to-peer course for "hacks" and hackers. The overall theme of the course will be "Open Journalism on the Open Web," and -- being a peer-to-peer course that is all about "open" -- we need your input and involvement to make the course a success.

As part of Mozilla's ongoing work to keep the web open, we've been supporting a number of exciting education projects through the Mozilla Drumbeat initiative. We are partnering with Peer-to-Peer University (P2PU) to create the School of Webcraft -- the ultimate environment in which to learn the craft of open and standards-based web development. And P2PU also has a shared interest in journalism -- and recently offered a Digital Journalism course with Joi Ito of the Keio Graduate School of Media Design.

Course format

Each week the course will focus on a different topic, and each week the participants will be joined by a different subject-matter expert from the field of news innovation. The weekly course readings, online participation, and a seminar are expected to require roughly 4-6 hours.

The topics that we've outlined to date are posted below as answers to this question. Please give them a vote up / vote down to let us know what you think, or -- better yet -- add your own answers.

We also want to know:

  • Courses you want: If you were running the show (and you are!), what topics would you want to see covered?
  • Courses you want to teach: Did I mention that this is a peer-to-peer course? Seriously, what topics are you a subject-matter expert on? Would you be willing to be part of our teaching team?

We need your help to make this happen. Please take a moment to vote on the answers posted below, or comment with your ideas. (Please also indicate your interest in attending, volunteering, or teaching.)

We're hoping to run a pilot course in September, so it would be great to have your quick comments as soon as possible.

Many thanks in advance for your input.

Phillip.
(On behalf of Mozilla)

UPDATE: Registration is now open for Open Journalism on the Open Web!

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Following on [Phillip's question] (http://help.hackshackers.com/questions/611/hacks-hackers-and-mozilla-want-to-know-how-should-we-structure-an-online-curriculum) about a Hacks/Hackers course, we are looking for a few volunteers to help us turn it into an actual course to be offered in September 2010 (start date 15 Sep).

Some of you already offered to help with individual topics (thank you!) and we'd like to form a small core group of people from Hacks/Hackers, Mozilla, and P2PU who will take the lead on pulling it all together and facilitating a group of peer-learners to work through the materials.

There isn't a huge amount of time to plan, and since this is the first time we are trying this, things are still a little experimental - but the idea is to learn, iterate, and improve rapidly.

We've already started some of the legwork (and used your input from the earlier discussion). The next steps are:

  • Update the basic six week outline we have put together on the P2PU wiki
  • Build out the readings for each weeks' topic, e.g.: compile a list of relevant online talks, presentations, articles, etc.
  • Define specific tasks that a group of peer-learners can work through together
  • Sign up additional case-studies or subject matter experts who could join live seminars in each week. We already have several committed (you can see the list in progress here), but we're still looking for more.

We'll also need help during the course -- we'll need volunteers to help facilitate the discussion, and to help a group of learner work through the materials together.

So, if this is something you'd be willing to put a few hours of your time into or take leadership on (with our support) - please let us know by subscribing to the Google Group here.

We'll be kicking off the course planning on Tuesday, August 17th (that's tomorrow) -- so be sure to sign-up today if you're interested.

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I'm excited to watch this project and wish you the best of luck. It's a worthy project. – Andriak Aug 27 at 1:14
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A course that explores the fundamentals of journalism and coding would help hacks and hackers understand each others' principles, processes, lexicons, etc. For example, the Hacks/Hackers glossary, Zen of Python and Pragmatic Programmer Quick Reference are good possible resources to include for journalists.

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Something not unlike this upcoming Poynter seminar: poynter.org/seminar/… – Greg Linch Jul 29 at 15:32
That's a great suggestion. Actually, it reminded me of a question I wanted to ask in response to the Hacks/Hackers glossary. At the moment, the glossary seems to be only Hackers->Hacks and not Hacks->Hackers, e.g.: most/all of the terms are technical. So the question I had was: Should there be a glossary that tries to introduce terms from the journalism world to the hackers? If so, what terms should it contain? (Maybe that's a good question for this site on it's own?) – phillipadsmith Jul 29 at 15:34
I agree -- there does seem to be interest from the hacker side in understanding more about hacks and how they work (and I do always have to define the different meaning of the word "hack" in the journalistic context when I tell people the name of the organization!) – Burt Herman Jul 29 at 15:49
Really love this idea. Even though a lot of this is available online, it would be great to have a centralized point of reference. – ErinPolgreen Jul 29 at 16:59
Thanks for the feedback, everyone! This would also be a good precursor to the collaboration course help.hackshackers.com/questions/611/… – Greg Linch Jul 30 at 17:46
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"Data journalism and government." Exploring open sources: how to find them, how to work with them, etc. Timely topic given the recent release of data by Wikileaks.

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This is a great concept--would love to see portions of this focused on data visualization as well. – ErinPolgreen Jul 29 at 17:01
I'd like to see this reach thoroughly into manipulating and annotating large data sets and document dumps -- a complete crash course in CAR. I feel like visualizations could be a rich topic all its own and adding it here may be too much for one week. – Kevin Koehler Jul 30 at 19:28
Essentially I think this should be combined with "Big Ugly Datasets for Thumb-Fingered Journalists" help.hackshackers.com/questions/611/… – Kevin Koehler Jul 30 at 19:31
Possible resource for this topic (new book out in August): designingwithdata.com – phillipadsmith Aug 2 at 13:26
I agree with Kevin that dealing with both large data sets and data visualization in one class is ambitious, but it seems to me that the two things are inextricably linked as a massive data set is probably going to need to be understood visually. – Alex M Aug 12 at 17:49
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"Edit it. Fork it. The art of collaboration and journalism." What does collaboration mean in the context of digital journalism? What are the tools that can support collaboration online, i.e., programming collaboratively, collaborative video editing, collaborative funding, etc.

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A topic I'm always interested in. – Digidave Jul 29 at 18:56
Let me add: What are the social challenges to collaboration? What institutional biases prevent or hamstring it? Important issues in the territorial world of traditional institutional journalism. – Josh Wilson Jul 29 at 21:01
Not to be redundant, but here's a direct example of why it's hard for traditional news entities to collaborate: npr.org/blogs/ombudsman/2010/07/27/128805775/… – Josh Wilson Jul 31 at 19:22
At Personal Democracy Forum, we're leading an ongoing collaboration for the midterm elections, called 10Questions, with newspapers, TV stations and online news organizations in 11 states. The project lead, Daniel Teweles, and myself, would love to offer up what we're doing as a case study in collaboration in journalism. – Nick Judd Aug 10 at 15:54
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Project management: How do you take an idea from the conceptual to launch? Although there are variations, developers usually have very particular processes they go through to meet deadlines & project goals. Have them share the different project stages and the whys behind the process.

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I would also add (or split off into another class) a discussion about terminology: What is a site map? Persona? Storyboard? template? Etc. A "How to speak geek," if you will. (No offense meant to the geeky.) – AmyJo Brown Jul 29 at 16:00
"What is agile development?" would be good too. – Greg Linch Jul 29 at 16:19
I would highly recommend this one. Related: Project management from scratch - how to do a RFP, write requirements, etc. – Digidave Jul 29 at 18:57
Wondering if we could pull someone like Rob Purdie (importantprojects.com) into this topic. He's shared a lot of great resources -- templates, etc. -- on his consulting site (importantprojects.com/resources) and recently managed the Economist's re-launch (and has done some presenting on that topic: robpurdie.net/2010/06/11/…). Could be a good resource. – phillipadsmith Jul 31 at 17:11
how to manage the 'never ending' story cycle ? (now that online stories are ever evolving... where do we 'stop' or 'evolve' a story, or revisit it weeks or months (or years) later ? Involves archiving as well... (perhaps moving beyond project management)... also, how to get buy-in from management up the chain (if from 'bricks and mortar' news orgs) – reisa Aug 3 at 0:17
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Big Ugly Datasets For Thumb-Fingered Journalists:

Say you're a hack covering sports, politics, business -- doesn't matter.

Somewhere out there is a file that ends in three letters: CSV. It could be megabytes and megabytes big. It will probably be so big, in fact, that it will be nearly impossible to navigate in Excel and not much easier in Access.

But it has all kinds of useful information that will help you cover your beat -- if only you could load the file, get the data you want from it, and do analysis.

What now?

The "Data-Driven Journalism" side of this curriculum should address, for journalists:

  • An understanding of what a "flat file" is
  • An introduction to DBMS and how they work
  • How to clean a big data file for use in a DBMS using a tool like a Python script or a robust text editor like vi
  • How to load data into a DBMS
  • How to use a DBMS to get what you need out of large (100,000+ records) data files, export that to a spreadsheet, and plug that into viz tools like ManyEyes or Socrata to get the chart you want

And for hackers and journalists together:

  • How to collaborate on a data-driven journalism project, and who to collaborate with
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+1 Great summary, Nick. Many thanks! (And, are you offering to help on this topic! ;) ) – phillipadsmith Jul 30 at 16:40
Yes, I'm offering to help on this topic, too. =-) – Nick Judd Jul 30 at 23:03
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"Maps. Maps. Everywhere." From Google Maps to Grassroots Mapping and back again. What are the different ways that maps are being used to provide context and information, etc.

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Instead of just talking about different ways maps are being used, why not teach the basics of cartography. Can learn the basics of different map projections, guidelines for thematic mapping, presenting geographic data in a non-misleading way, etc. – albertsun Jul 29 at 15:31
Love that idea, albertsun. – AmyJo Brown Jul 29 at 16:05
+1 Great idea, albertsun. – phillipadsmith Jul 29 at 16:13
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The Art of Engagement. If journalism is a conversation, what does it take to host conversations that matter? What are the patterns of interaction that show up? How do you create a welcoming environment that makes room for diverse perspectives in civil dialogue?

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I really like this topic idea. Civil Beat seems to be doing a great job at it. They might be a good resource. – AmyJo Brown Jul 29 at 19:11
Not to neglect Journalism That Matters ... – Josh Wilson Jul 29 at 20:06
I'd be curious about ways to integrate offline and online conversations. Maybe a useful thing on this topic would be a workshop-style session or series of sessions on how to string together multiple engagements -- asynchronous online, real time online, real time in-person -- into a single, seamless, ongoing conversation, involving direct contact between reporters, community managers, and the people formerly known as the audience. My hunch for a while now has been that reporters will have to step out from behind their prepared words and images more often in the coming years. How should we? – Nick Judd Aug 4 at 20:19
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"Show me your sources. Primary documents in the internet age." Exploring how different organizations are working with source material, and what tools are available to help.

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Perhaps related to this topic would be the ideas behind projects like American Public Media's Public Insight Network: americanpublicmedia.publicradio.org/… E.g.: How to find, leverage, and cultivate a larger network of sources. – phillipadsmith Jul 30 at 15:29
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All about APIs. What they are, how they work -- from popular examples like Twitter and Google Maps to lesser-known gems. How you can create cool new stuff out of other people's apps; when, how, and why you should let other people easily make their own cool new stuff out of your apps.

Thusly show journalists how to get their feet wet with the "open web" in specific, practical ways. Hopefully inspire new, open applications of reporting.

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Like this idea a lot. Might fit well with the "API Playground" that was produced during the Future of News & Civic Media conference in June: apiplayground.org – phillipadsmith Jul 31 at 17:01
Another obvious example / API to look at would be the new Public Media Platform launched by NPR, APM, PRX, etc: wired.com/epicenter/2010/06/… – phillipadsmith Jul 31 at 21:43
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"Mad for Metadata." What is it, how can it be used, how is it being used in newsrooms (in particular: how is it being managed in the cms and standardized across the newsroom), what are best practices outside of the industry for categorizing and organizing information and what ideas can newsrooms steal from them? (kinda broad; this could probably be narrowed a bit more)

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Very relevant in the context of how new organizations are using "linked data," RDF, etc. to produce flexible topic pages, and so on. Great piece on it here: bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2010/07/… – phillipadsmith Jul 29 at 17:46
Thanks for the link! Good stuff; lots of digesting to do ... – AmyJo Brown Jul 29 at 19:14
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I don't know about the structure, but I think some thought needs to be given to the format. The p2pu Digital Journalism course just wrapped up, and that was conducted over Ustream with class recordings available online for viewing afterwards.

Speaking as a programming noob, I'd love to see classes on Ustream where the instructor walks through a screencast demonstration. I always trip up when following text-based instructions, but give me a screencast so I can watch how its done and I'm usually ok.

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The SitePoint Live is a good model for online learning. There are readings, screencasts, live Q&A videos, a discussion forum, etc. For example, sitepoint.com/blogs/2010/07/26/… – Greg Linch Jul 30 at 1:09
@1rick would be interested to hear even more about your experience as a participant in the Digital Journalism course, e.g.: What was the most helpful? How much time were you able to commit? Were you able to complete the readings each week, etc.? Format is something that we'll be looking at closely over the next few weeks. – phillipadsmith Jul 30 at 14:17
@GregLinch Sitepoint looks pretty bad-ass. I think I recall you linking to it before, but I'm definitely going to be digging into that a little more. @PhillipAdSmith The format of the digital journalism class was ok. I was usually able to set aside time to tune into the class, and if I couldn't I tried to catch the recording. As for the content there was not as much 'digital' as I expected, but it was still pretty rad considering it was free. Mohamed Nanabay was great. – 1rick Jul 30 at 23:43
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Defining Collaborative Journalism Protocols on the Open Internet

How can traditionally vertical news organizations and practices open up and collaborate in the ideally open Internet, given limited resources and specific institutional goals that don't always overlap?

Is there a collaborative protocol that would enable independent producers to collaborate and aggregate outside of traditional vertical news structures?

This may merge with Andriak's answer about changing newsroom cultures to create more open and transparent venues for the work of journalism.

I do think it's about culture and practice, however, not necessarily about specific technological applications. This is an issue of expanding the information commons and open discourse.

(Again: I have extracted this from a previous, more lengthy answer, that I decided not to edit and delete due to the interesting but distinct conversation it provoked.)

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Agree that maybe this could be merged with Andriak's answer, and maybe even the proposal for "Journalism and the open web. A land of opportunity." – phillipadsmith Jul 30 at 15:17
Also with "Edit it. Fork it." and "Reporting Standards" ... though in the latter case I think it's about more than standards, practical issues of method and "compatibility," for lack of a better word. – Josh Wilson Jul 30 at 18:37
As an example of how hard it is for traditional, vertical news institutions to collaborate, check out this piece by Alicia Shepard, NPR's ombudswoman, regarding "two-ways" -- on-air interviews with reporters from other news orgs. In this case it's with a WSJ reporter about a Toyota-recall story. As you read, consider how the problems she cites are really procedural, and easily remedied by a more thoroughgoing protocol for collaboration: npr.org/blogs/ombudsman/2010/07/27/128805775/… – Josh Wilson Jul 31 at 19:22
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As a current j-school participant, I think it's really important to for the practice and sharing of reporting, writing, rich media production, data literacy and programming skills to be continuously embedded in the experience of producing news "stories." My experience with j-school has been that there often isn't time in the curriculum for the skills that all my classmates bring with them to come together in innovative and context-relevant ways.

Bringing programmers into the newsroom isn't just a matter of adding new tools, it's adding different ways of thinking and making.

Rather than breaking a curriculum into modules based on skills (programming, GIS, interviewing, video editing) it would be better to structure the modules around "news problems" that teach multiple skills together and value the diverse perspectives and skills that students are bringing with them.

Off the top of my head, here are some ideas of "news problems" that seem like they would involve multiple reporting and hacking competencies:

  • The city has released a new data set with thousands of records of information. Find the story in the data and explain in clearly to your audience.
  • Neighborhood residents are divided over a proposed development project. How do you capture neighborhood sentiment around the controversy and engage community members to stay engaged as new information becomes available?
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Lots of food for thought here. I really like the idea of including "news problems" as part of the curriculum. Many thanks, Geoffrey -- keep the ideas coming. :-) – phillipadsmith Jul 30 at 21:54
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"Old and new business models for journalism." Looking at case studies of which business models are "working," and which ones are still in development.

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Web Design/Content strategy: A course that explores how best to organize online the content a newsroom produces. It's a LOT of content. Very often news sites pick up their print sections and place them into the navigation structure of the website. But does that work? We could talk about how to tell (usability testing, surveys, etc.)

But we could also explore, from the developer community side, information architecture and best practices. And, from the journo side, have print designers describe their best practices. How to marry the two? Should the two be married? ... Some entry points to the discussion might be the topic-based navigation & database libraries of some of the online-only news startups.

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Reporting Standards in the Digital Age: The Sherrod incident is a perfect example of why we need to maintain "old fashioned" standards in the 24 hour news cycle universe. We may not be able to do everything as we once did but surely there are new ways to do basic fact and/or provenance checks more rapidly and still get a piece up in a competitive time frame. It is astonishing, given the source, that the Sherrod video wasn't vetted. It's perfect evidence for why we need to find ways to remain competitive and still be what we ought to be for our patrons (readers? viewers? consumers?)

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+1 Great idea, Cynthia. Many thanks! – phillipadsmith Jul 29 at 16:49
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An idea that echoes some of what's been said:
Changing culture, within and without
1. How do hacks/hackers change the culture of newsrooms and IT departments for the better in the new journalism world?
2. How do journalists and journalism organizations work to change information culture to more open and transparent place within their communities?
3. Why should cultures even be changed in the first place, and is it even possible to change existing institutions or is it better to start from scratch?

Courses you want to teach: Basic journalism course for new people doing journalism online. At some point, I might try this independently.
Photography/video along with basic journalism photography, with a strong F2F component. Others could teach this better than I could. I can just vouch that there is strong demand.

I took Joi's course, and I've proposed a basic journalism course in the past. The tools and the subject matter interest me greatly, and I'd love to hear how this idea progresses.

More reading:
Slides and links to open education tools, built during Joi's class:
http://globalvue.wordpress.com/2010/07/06/watch-this-space/
MediaShift story about open, free journalism classes gaining ground:
http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2010/06/free-online-journalism-classes-begin-to-gain-ground179.html

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@Andriak Would enjoying getting your feedback on the format & content of the Digital Journalism course you participated in. What worked really well? What could be improved? How much time you invested in participating, etc. Any feedback appreciated. – phillipadsmith Jul 30 at 15:11
@phillipadsmith This class felt very much like a skunkworks, with many tools thrown in to see what would stick with students. Fun. Joi Ito's take: joi.ito.com/weblog/2010/07/28/… What worked well? Asynchronous communication, which I've loved since taking my first online class in 2007. That, combined with synchronous communication in IRC with video once a week. What could be improved: Visual design of interface. How much time? 4 to 6 hours a week, varies, especially one week when I took the challenge to post elsewhere three times a day. Didn't make it. :) – Andriak Jul 31 at 0:25
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Customer service: how this is changing rapidly as journalists adopt to the online world and developers think about products for anyone to use. This would identify audiences, consider topics like the digital divide, and also focus on community building.

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User support, plus product testing and bug reporting, might be good to include too. As someone with a background in reporting now at a startup making tools for journalists, I've learned those on the job and think they are important skills. – Greg Linch Aug 2 at 17:21
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Database/Spreadsheet design. How to organize your data, particularly for long-term projects or continuing coverage, so that it helps instead of hindering your reporting. Designing your data so that it helps prevent errors from creeping in and minimizes the maintenance overhead. Writing effective documentation so that you can remember why you did something a particular way when you set up the database or spreadsheet 2 weeks or 2 years ago.

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Building, Linking and Sustaining Decentralized Newsrooms.

How can we take journalism out of hierarchical legacy institutions, and turn it into a widespread, open-source practice among peers? Here are elements of that question that we at Newsdesk.org have been exploring, and that we want to share with our colleagues

  • Methodologies for identifying issues that matter and communities in need
  • Developing co-op/peer-driven editorial models
  • Aggregation beyond mere summary
  • News items as "social objects" in the decentralized medium
  • Local journalism fundraising: individual donors, crowdsourcing, grants
  • Building a shared-back office to support aggregate operations and marketing.

We consider this a community effort akin to open-source software development; as such it requires collaboration between peers who may be embedded in or beholden to non-collaborative systems. In my experience this is one of the most important issues and challenges of all.

Another question: What actionable outcomes will result from this class or discussion? A protocol for collaboration? A consortium of like-minded news producers who want to take the lessons learned and apply them in practice? Food for thought.

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Lots of good ideas in here, Josh. Many thanks! (Assuming we could wrangle you into helping with this topic, yes? ;) ) – phillipadsmith Jul 29 at 17:16
You bet! Just let me know how, when and where. : ) – Josh Wilson Jul 29 at 18:04
I agree that some of the concepts are good, but I would not like to see any element of this series turned into basically an advertisement for particular service, product or entity. – Derek Willis Jul 29 at 18:28
Derek -- that makes sense. My question then is, how do we share what we've learned already at Newsdesk.org? Our intent is to create something that belongs to the world, not to a single institution. Newsdesk should be more like Mozilla, Firefox, Drupal or WordPress and less like ProPublica, The Bay Citizen, NPR or PBS. It should be a collaborative protocol rather than a singular vertical entity. – Josh Wilson Jul 29 at 18:50
Before you knock them, I'd take a second look at orgs like ProPublica and NPR - they do create things and then give them away via APIs and distribution partnerships. How to share what you've learned is up to you, but I think defining a protocol for collaboration could be a useful thing, lessons learned from actual collaboration (which ProPublica and other outlets are doing) are even more useful. – Derek Willis Jul 30 at 1:26
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"Defining Articles As Social-News Objects"

What is the combination of reporting methodology, physical article structure and internal markup/coding that defines an article as a "social object" -- something that is transferable in its entirety between platforms, open to comment/discourse, and that has longitudinal value, i.e., that doesn't get stale as a story, that has legs, is able to update itself. For example, is this process automatic or manually curated? Etc.

(I have extracted this from a previous, more lengthy answer, that I decided not to edit and delete due to the interesting but distinct conversation it provoked.)

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Not sure if it's related, but I posted this link in a comment on another answer: bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2010/07/… The link talks about how the BBC is using "linked data" to create content objects that can be used in a variety of ways. – phillipadsmith Jul 30 at 15:16
I think it is related. It gets a little blurry when you consider the difference between content objects vs. linked data, but, when thinking about a news article as a social object, I am specifically interested in human-defined narrative as the dominant, public-facing feature that imposes order on the metadata, the linked data, the diverse content objects. So we are not talking here about landing pages or index pages -- nor about discrete content objects (i.e. a photo, a sound clip, a string of text), but rather their aggregate as a coherent, transferrable narrative entity. – Josh Wilson Jul 30 at 16:41
"So we are not talking here about landing pages or index pages -- nor about discrete content objects (i.e. a photo, a sound clip, a string of text), but rather their aggregate as a coherent, transferrable narrative entity." -- Very interesting question! Pondering that, what immediately jumped to mind was the recent Web Made Movies demonstration, that illustrates how one content object (video, in this case) can interact with live data from the Web. Have a look (in Firefox!): webmademovies.org – phillipadsmith Jul 30 at 19:12
See also stdout.be/2010/we-are-in-the-information-business – Kevin Koehler Jul 30 at 22:25
So Web-made movies offer coherent narrative video that can "interact with live data on the Web" -- a creating a narrative that imposes structure on info even as the info changes? While Debrouwere & Holovaty want to focus on how the structure of information enables that it to be repurposed for multiple narrative needs? Updating vs. Remixing, in other words? Cool. Perhaps we need a bit of both, because remixing, while beneficial, can be put to cynical purposes. Consider Brietbart's edits of the Sherrod speech. Can the structure of information guarantee narrative integrity even as it is remixed? – Josh Wilson Jul 31 at 3:21
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What about the business of journalism? How do you finance major stories that require serious chunks of time from an excellent researcher/reporter? How do you use design to tell a story and how do you pay to get that design? As we all know there aren't definitive answers on what the business model for digital journalism is at this point. Grapple with the issues, study what's happening, and engage in conversations about how to tell a story online PLUS where the money will come from for making that story engaging, and connecting it to a wide audience---that's a course I'd like to offer and/or take.

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@LindaSolomon: Agreed. I think this would fit well with the proposed topic "Old and new business models for journalism" here: help.hackshackers.com/questions/611/… – phillipadsmith Aug 3 at 14:49
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Apologies if this is repetitive (I actually haven't had a chance to read through this thread yet). This was part of my answer to the "What should a Hacks/Hackers glossary aimed at programmers contain?" thread and Phillip asked me to post it here:

...Introduce programmers to how newsrooms operate, because programmers who join newsrooms are likely there to work on projects that compliment reporting. Introduce programmers to the basic editorial structure: how newsrooms are organized; how newsrooms operate day-to-day; how stories go from concept, to reporting, to editing, to publish; who and how many people a programmer is likely to be working with on a project (in our case: reporters, several editors, designers, the copy desk, the web producers, in some cases, IT), etc.

It would be great to see case studies of how projects came to be. The WaPo's recent "Top Secret America" would be a good one. Derek Willis gave a really interesting talk at an ONA meetup on producing NYT's Toxic Waters . The video is somewhere online, but I can't find it. Greg Linch probably has the link, so hopefully he'll see this.

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Yup! Video and liveblog greglinch.com/2010/05/… – Greg Linch Aug 4 at 19:48
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"Journalism and the open web. A land of opportunity." Would explore what we mean when we say "open web," what technologies are part of that movement, and where that intersects with journalism and news.

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I had joined a computer assisted reporting class a few months ago through an online class, but I got only a few knowledge from it. I guess the course that Hacks/Hackers will conduct should also cover how the Internet can help journalists improve their reporting, data gathering and, possibly, data verification. There should be tips on how journalists can obtain data/information from official government websites. In some countries, government officials tend to conceal the public information such as the amount of budget or officers' monthly payment. Is there a way for journalists to obtain such information? -- Siswoko

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@Siswoko Do you have a link to the course you attended? It would be helpful to see the curriculum. I'm sure others here can better answer your questions about access to public information in other countries. :-) – phillipadsmith Jul 30 at 15:13
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Business/Marketing planning: I hear a lot of exciting ideas for new kinds of services, without a well-thought-out idea of what market they're planning to serve, what its needs are, and what revenue sources are suitable for that market. They also need to know how to model their cost structure. A hard-headed review of the current online advertising market is also in order. I'd be interested in contributing to this. I presented on related topics at the UC Berkeley J-School earlier this year.

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Content Management Systems/Frameworks: I'd love to see the criteria for choosing among content management systems from a development perspective. What are the strengths and weaknesses of each of the major CMS's and frameworks? What skills do you need to use each one? What kinds of projects is each suitable for? I can't teach it, but I'd be happy to contribute to a discussion of this topic.

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ONA09 had a session on this last year. A big drawback of that session: the big vendors said they weren't allowed to participate (I'm not sure that's true; that's what one representative said at the time.) Some of these big, pricey legacy systems have features or ideas that are valuable, and it's good to be aware of their capabilities. I hate to see those ideas shut out. *disclaimer: from a former CCI superuser – Andriak Aug 10 at 4:17

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